American persimmon pie w/ chestnut flour crust & maple whipped cream

Last Updated on October 24, 2023 by Aaron von Frank

This American persimmon pie is made with a chestnut flour crust and maple whipped cream: three complimentary layers of flavor from three different tree species. Decadent! You can also use this recipe even if you don’t have chestnut flour OR if you have Asian persimmons. 

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We should start this recipe article by saying we don’t eat dessert very often, maybe once every couple of weeks. (Unless you count a piece of fresh-picked fruit as dessert.) 

We generally think it’s a good idea to avoid foods with added sugar, especially if they’re combined with other highly processed ingredients (example: white flour). However, we also think it’s a good idea to indulge in homemade seasonal dessert from time-to-time.

There’s wisdom in Michael Pollan’s eating rule: “Eat all the junk food you want as long as you cook it yourself.” When we do eat sweets/desserts, they’re homemade and the main ingredients are typically home-grown or foraged — not as frictionless a process as popping open a bag of pre-made cookies.  

In short: we’d love for you to enjoy this persimmon pie recipe as much as we do. However, since we also want to encourage people to be their best/healthiest selves, don’t overdo it!  

Recipe notes & tips 

Our American persimmon pie recipe is basically three recipes in one: a) chestnut flour pie crust, b) persimmon pie filling, and c) maple syrup whipped cream. A few important tips and notes for success with this recipe: 

1. American vs Asian persimmons 

American persimmons (Diospyros virginiana) are a common tree in the southeast. The ripe fruit is about the size of a ping-pong ball and is intensely flavorful when ripe. In fact, a ripe American persimmon is a dessert unto itself. 

However, if you get a less-than-ripe American persimmon you’re in for some punishment since the bitter tannins will make you think your mouth is turning inside out. For this recipe, make certain that you use fully ripe American persimmons. 

Yes, you can also use Asian persimmons (much larger and usually pucker-free) for this recipe. They’re just not as flavorful as American persimmons, and they tend to be more watery. 

(Read more about the differences between persimmon species and cultivars, and how to grow or forage persimmons.)

2. De-seeding American persimmons

Separating seed from pulp in American persimmons is messy work. There may be a tool out there that makes the process easy but we just use fingers and a metal strainer. Here’s how:

Remove and compost/discard the persimmon calyx (the hard woody attachment between the fruit and stem). Interestingly, Asian persimmon calyxes are an ingredient in Chinese herbal medicine, but we’ve never used them.

Also, remove the small pointy node at the bottom of the fruit. I used to call these “persimmon tails” when I was a kid. 

Now the metal strainer comes in handy. Put the persimmons in the strainer and smush them around with your hands, while holding the strainer over your “finished” bowl. After a few minutes of smushing and sliding the seeds over the rough strainer surface, the bulk of the pulp will separate from the seeds and go into the bowl below.  

You can plant these seeds in locations of your choice as a gift to future you or future generations. Or you can dry, roast, and grind them to be added to coffee or tea. (More on that in another article.) 

Asian persimmons are MUCH easier to de-seed by comparison. In fact, some varieties are bred to be seedless. 

Once you’ve got all your finished persimmon pulp, immersion blend it or put it in a standard blender to blend it into a uniform pureed consistency. 

3. Chestnut flour

We also grow our own organic chestnuts and are always in search of new chestnut recipe ideas. This year, we’ve made small batches of chestnut flour and are enjoying learning how to cook with it. (Learn how to make your own chestnut flour.)

Chestnut flour doesn’t contain gluten which means it doesn’t bind together like wheat does. So binders need to be added to chestnut flour recipes where applicable, such as the addition of a beaten egg in our chestnut pie crust below. 

If you don’t have chestnuts or homemade chestnut flour, you can either: a) buy chestnut flour, or b) just make your favorite go-to wheat flour pie crust. 

4. Maple whipped cream

Like pumpkin pie, this persimmon pie recipe really benefits from the addition of a creamy topping. We liked the idea of adding more “tree” to this recipe, hence making whipped cream infused with real maple syrup. (If you use fake maple syrup, we’ll unfriend you.)

We also like to add 1/4 teaspoon cream of tartar while mixing to give our whipped cream extra lift and staying power. However, it’s not essential so don’t fret if you don’t have any in your spice cabinet or cupboard. 

Let’s just say it worked – can’t wait for you to try it! And to add just one more little notch of perfection, grate a bit of nutmeg over the top of the maple whipped cream. 

5. Pie pan sizes 

Pie pan sizes can be really confusing, and different brands often have slightly different dimensions. The pie pan used in this recipe was 1 1/4″ deep x 9″ across (measuring from the inside). It holds about 4 cups of filling. 

If you use the exact same pan size we do, you’ll have a little extra pie crust and some extra persimmon filling too. No worries: combine these ingredients in a small saucepan, add about 1/2 cup milk and whisk them constantly over medium heat for about 7-10 minutes (or until thickened) for a delicious persimmon pudding. 

Or use a slightly larger pie pan if you want to get all the goodies into a pie. 

Recipe: American persimmon pie with chestnut flour crust and maple whipped cream

We hope you love Tyrant’s Tree Pie as much as we do! Be sure to go on a nice long hike after eating it to earn those extra calories — and to find more wild American persimmons. 

KIGI,

Go nuts (or fruity) with these related articles from Tyrant Farms:

• How to grow chestnuts in your home orchard or homestead
• How to make chestnut flour
• Recipe: 20 minute pan-roasted chestnuts on a stovetop
• Recipe: Chestnut breakfast porridge with pan-roasted persimmons
• Recipe: Acorn flour & American persimmon cookies
• Japanese vs American persimmons: how to grow, forage, eat
• How to store Asian persimmons – with recipes!
• Recipe: Persimmon oat crumble (gluten-free)
• Recipe: Spiced persimmon breakfast
• Recipe: Persimmon cranberry relish 
• Recipe: Persimmon butter with blood oranges and maple syrup
• American persimmon seed tea (yes, persimmon seeds are edible)
• Chestnut breakfast porridge with pan-roasted persimmons
• Chestnut and shiitake mushroom soup
• Recipe: Persimmon bread with oats, walnuts, and honey
• Recipe: American persimmon panna cotta